Josh Engels
@JoshAEngels
Interp @GoogleDeepMind | on leave from my PhD @ MIT
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@JoshAEngels Cool research. Is the code available by any chance? Would be awesome to play with it.
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Finally, it's unclear if these results are an artifact of current nascent text diffusion training paradigms rather than a lasting property of latent reasoning architectures. We thus hope that our work serves as a template for evaluations of future latent reasoning models.
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Another neat result is "token smearing": when DiffusionGemma is confident that a token will exist somewhere, but doesn't know exactly where the token will go, it will maintain a "smeared" probability distribution over adjacent positions. https://t.co/XHLeLT1AqX
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In one case study, we ask DiffusionGemma to count the number of perfect squares between 400 and 800 and give its answer first followed by the list of squares. The model will guess wrong, list the squares, and then go back and correct its mistake. https://t.co/nVXfez5iIh
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Next, in a series of case studies, we study algorithmic transparency: whether we can use intermediates to reconstruct the process by which the model arrived at its outputs. We introduce neat visualizations too!
I won't get to all case studies here, so go see the paper for more!
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We also test monitorability, a key application of transparency that measures whether model outputs are useful for downstream tasks.
We find that Gemma and DiffusionGemma are similarly monitorable. https://t.co/FfARuptCHv
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Furthermore, for the p = 0.03 ablation (one of the ablations with no effect on performance), most tokens are equal or semantically similar to tokens in the final rollout.
So the load bearing diffusion model intermediates are mostly (interpretable) guesses for final tokens! https
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But all hope isn't lost!
The reason that the opaque serial depth is so high is the non-interpretable vector in between denoising steps.
We project this vector into token space and restrict to the top few tokens; performance is unharmed; we can look at just these tokens. https:/
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As we expected, DiffusionGemmas' opaque serial depth--a numerical estimate of non-transparent reasoning that measures the length of the deepest path through the model that doesn't go through tokens--is empirically and asymptotically larger than the corresponding Gemma 4 model. ht
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In our transparency audit of DiffusionGemma, we:
- find no decrease in monitorability
- reduce opaque serial depth by applying LogitLens to intermediate vectors
- discover weird non-autoregressive phenomena
We hope audits like this become standard for new model architectures.
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Paper here! https://t.co/cgMhy0qZbd
Work done w/ @calsmcdougall @bilalchughtai_ @JanosKramar @sen_r @cindyxywu @ArthurConmy @AsicChen @jean_tarbou @Sophia_NLP @bodonoghue85 @jglo_liveira @rohinmshah and @NeelNanda5
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Text diffusion models are fast, but are less transparent than today's LLMs because they do many forward passes before outputting text.
We audit the transparency of DiffusionGemma and find that the intermediates are interpretable. This recovers many of the benefits of CoT!
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